The assistant director of the Rock Ethics Institute, Ben Jones, and senior scientist at the Institute Eleanor Brown were interviewed on WPSU radio's Take Note community affairs program about their recent OpEd published in both the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Philadelphia Inquirer.

Brown and Jones wrote about barriers to police reform and the Osaze Osagie case in State College, Pennsylvania. Osagie -- a Black man with schizophrenia -- was shot and killed by police as they attempted to serve a mental health warrant on him in March 2019. 

You can listen to their discussion with Emily Reddy, the news director of WPSU, here.

Ben Jones (l), Rock Ethics Institute Assistant Director, and 
Eleanor Brown (r), Rock Ethics Institute Senior Scientist and
Professor of Law and International Affairs, Penn State Law